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	<title>Comments on: The State of Financial Engineering</title>
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		<title>By: ra.re.ly</title>
		<link>http://www.creditspectrum.com/2008/12/the-state-of-financial-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>ra.re.ly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought &quot;we are the music makers..&quot; is an Ode by Arthur O&#039;Shaughnessy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;we are the music makers..&#8221; is an Ode by Arthur O&#8217;Shaughnessy</p>
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		<title>By: M.G.</title>
		<link>http://www.creditspectrum.com/2008/12/the-state-of-financial-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read on &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://mgiannini.blogspot.com/2008/12/alchemists-of-global-finance.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ALCHEMISTS OF GLOBAL FINANCE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.creditspectrum.com/2008/12/the-state-of-financial-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. As an MFE graduate, I cannot say I disagree. From the point of view that the purpose of an MFE is to get a job in quantitative finance, I&#039;m afraid the MFE failed in that respect, though one can certainly blame the current situation. Given the current environment I expect we will be hearing a lot more commentary like this. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As someone whose background is in computer engineering, it does seem like I&#039;ve lived through this before. In the mid-90s there was a considerable amount of hand-wringing in computer science and engineering departments of a similar nature, though not nearly of the same magnitude. Enrollments were soaring, and colleges frequently had multiple degrees under different schools that taught the same thing (Computer Engineering vs Computer Science versus Information Sciences). Meanwhile large software projects everywhere were failing, and it was known in the field, if not in the general press, that this was something of a crisis. In the schools, on one hand there was consternation that much of the curriculum looked like nothing more than job training, and on the other hand, that the curriculum did nothing to prepare students for the sorts of challenges that actually met them once they were on the job.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not hearing as much about massive software failures as I used to. Unfortunately, none of this can be traced back to any changes in education curriculum or philosophy. It seems that at this point, companies simply don&#039;t *do* those big ugly software projects any more. The emphasis has shifted hard to smaller projects where there is an explicit focus on manageability, quality and transparency at all levels. I&#039;m sure the big ugly failures are still happening (you may have one running as your operating system). In any case...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Financial Engineering may be in a crisis. Fortunately, it seems people can change the way they do business without waiting for education curriculum to keep up with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. As an MFE graduate, I cannot say I disagree. From the point of view that the purpose of an MFE is to get a job in quantitative finance, I&#8217;m afraid the MFE failed in that respect, though one can certainly blame the current situation. Given the current environment I expect we will be hearing a lot more commentary like this. </p>
<p>As someone whose background is in computer engineering, it does seem like I&#8217;ve lived through this before. In the mid-90s there was a considerable amount of hand-wringing in computer science and engineering departments of a similar nature, though not nearly of the same magnitude. Enrollments were soaring, and colleges frequently had multiple degrees under different schools that taught the same thing (Computer Engineering vs Computer Science versus Information Sciences). Meanwhile large software projects everywhere were failing, and it was known in the field, if not in the general press, that this was something of a crisis. In the schools, on one hand there was consternation that much of the curriculum looked like nothing more than job training, and on the other hand, that the curriculum did nothing to prepare students for the sorts of challenges that actually met them once they were on the job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not hearing as much about massive software failures as I used to. Unfortunately, none of this can be traced back to any changes in education curriculum or philosophy. It seems that at this point, companies simply don&#8217;t *do* those big ugly software projects any more. The emphasis has shifted hard to smaller projects where there is an explicit focus on manageability, quality and transparency at all levels. I&#8217;m sure the big ugly failures are still happening (you may have one running as your operating system). In any case&#8230;</p>
<p>Financial Engineering may be in a crisis. Fortunately, it seems people can change the way they do business without waiting for education curriculum to keep up with them.</p>
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		<title>By: creditspectrum</title>
		<link>http://www.creditspectrum.com/2008/12/the-state-of-financial-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>creditspectrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A version of the presentation hosted on our website can be found here:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.creditspectrum.com/content/JH_quantitative_finance.pdf&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.creditspectrum.com/content/JH_quantitative_finance.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The post has also been edited to contain this link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A version of the presentation hosted on our website can be found here:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.creditspectrum.com/content/JH_quantitative_finance.pdf" REL="nofollow">http://www.creditspectrum.com/content/JH_quantitative_finance.pdf</a></p>
<p>The post has also been edited to contain this link.</p>
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		<title>By: M.G.</title>
		<link>http://www.creditspectrum.com/2008/12/the-state-of-financial-engineering/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>M.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://mises.org/story/3229&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;This failure of the economists to guide policy more successfully is closely connected with their propensity to imitate as closely as possible the procedures of the brilliantly successful physical sciences.&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;This failure of the economists to guide policy more successfully is closely connected with their propensity to imitate as closely as possible the procedures of the brilliantly successful physical sciences.&#8221;</p>
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